FUELforTHOUGHT

by Dave Koehler
6/7/04

Hello,

I’m converting my VW 1300cc 4cyl. inline car engine to mechanical injection, Bosch K-Jetronic. As I browse through all the different VW parts, I see many different butterfly sizes for the different engines with injection. Now, I’m aware of why you just can’t put on like 50mm carbs (50mm bore for each cylinder), to keep up air-velocity at lower revs, signal to the main jets and all that.

But, as we talk injection the runner size is already given, as it’s a standard cast VW injection manifold I’m using.(G40)

I know that a very large butterfly makes it hard to control gas flow at low throttle openings, and that is probably why many of the VW TB’s have a small and a large butterfly, the small one opens first, and then the big one.

But, in general, is it possible to make a TB TOO big? I mean, you don’t have any “low-flow” problems here, as with carbs, or as with too big runners or anything.

I’m thinking of making a TB with a single flat slide, of like 60mm in diameter, and that’s it. Then maybe I can work out some kind of non-linear opening system so the first like 1/3 of throttle opening has a low ratio to make it easier to control at low openings, and the last 2/3 at high ratio as I have to consider accelerator-travel.

The late BMW’s have no butterflies at all; there’s just a totally unrestricted “hole” all the way down. The intake is regulated by an electro-hydraulic system that determines intake valve lift from 0.3mm to 9mm, that’s it.

So isn’t it a matter of making the throttle easy to control at low openings while also maintaining the biggest, unrestricting bore at full throttle?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Arndt Baslund, Denmark


Arndt,

Bigger throttle blades make the engine respond quicker. This is fine for drag racing, but it can be a little touchy for part throttle control because when you get way too large on the butterfly versus your cylinder head and intake air flow capacity you may have given the engine all the air it can take when the butterfly is open 40 percent or less. Personally I like bigger but I do not turn corners at a controlled pace. Certainly you will want larger butterflies than your carbs had. I suggest going to Hilborn Injection and Kinsler Injection. See what size throttle bodies they offer for the VW in a conventional mechanical injection. This should give you a starting point.

http://www.hilborninjection.com/
http://www.kinsler.com/

Have a safe race,

Dave Koehler


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